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Discussion => Security => Topic started by: kmfkewm on May 22, 2012, 09:44 am

Title: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 22, 2012, 09:44 am
in another thread someone showed this

   Name    Register #    Age-Race-Sex    Release Date                  Location
1.    RYAN CHRISTOP RAWLS    63687-019    31-White-M    05-11-2012    RELEASED

they don't release people who are facing *multiple life sentences* for no reason.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: UKMJ on May 22, 2012, 10:00 am
Care to link to the original thread, I would like to see some back story to this. I never had any dealings with joot but would be interested in finding out how someone linked a real world identity with an SR identity.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: Trippyskies on May 22, 2012, 10:19 am
are you posting a vendors name and info?  based on paranoia?

I know plenty of people who faced huge charges but were released.  som people were facing 20 years, but only got 2 years probation, 10 days in jail.  I know another two guy facing mandatory minimum 10 years, they got 30 days and were released on bond for over 2 years before trial.

Don't just assume they ratted if you don't know shit.  thats not cool man, not fucking cool.

fuck, wasn't OJ simpson out on bail while facing double murder charges?  think he snitched too?

delete the post.

not cool
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 22, 2012, 10:33 am
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I know another two guy facing mandatory minimum 10 years

well that guy snitched then, since the only way to get a mandatory minimum removed is to give up information. The other one possibly snitched as well.

oh noez I gave up joots information, I guess I could have leaked it to the LE who didn't read the indictment against him how insecure of me. The info posted is from the bureau of prisons and the person in question had their vendor name and real name in the fucking DEA indictment and they are facing two life sentences plus twenty years, so I think they are already pretty fucked regardless.  Thanks for neg karma though, here have one from me :).

Being let out on bond when you are facing life without parole is rare as hell, there is absolutely no reason not to go on the run especially when you have as much evidence against you as Joot does and stand almost no chance of being found not guilty. I would imagine the bail must have been several millions of dollars considering I know people who were facing much shorter sentences who had half million dollar bail set.

OJ was NOT released on bail.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: PerfectDay on May 22, 2012, 11:19 am
So what is the point of this post? I am facing criminal charges right now it doesnt mean shit...........or is this post 2 imply that he told on someone cause if so SR isnt effected. We need the complete information for this post to be valid.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: 12345 on May 22, 2012, 11:21 am
thanks for the HeadsUP would be the answer I expected here.. not negative karma
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 22, 2012, 11:28 am
So what is the point of this post? I am facing criminal charges right now it doesnt mean shit...........or is this post 2 imply that he told on someone cause if so SR isnt effected. We need the complete information for this post to be valid.

Are you facing life without the possibility of parole? Do LE know that you have had counterfeit documents before? SR is effected, you are retarded if you think drug forums are islands that stand alone, TFM had hundreds of members who are also on SR and Joots product almost certainly has been sold on SR.

The post is valid as fuck. It is completely informative. Someone facing life without parole, who is known to have had counterfeit documents, was let out of jail. You might want to know this if he had your information, because it is strongly indicative of someone who gave information to the feds.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: wretched on May 22, 2012, 01:41 pm
thank you for posting kmf... I am beside myself with this info. facing life in prison, and released in less than a month. Really makes you think. And I can think of at least 1 person who could really find this information helpful.  In fact, I am going to message him right now to make sure he is aware that joot has been released.

well, the person I wanted to message hasn't been on since around the time that joot was released. Making me nervous.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: TFMP on May 22, 2012, 02:15 pm
It's almost unbelievable that this is true, considering he was the main psychedelics dealer. All I ever had from him was 5 tabs of needlepoint, so I'm not worried. Not sure about you wretched but just going by your posts on tfm forums, you seem to have bought quite a bit. Better be safe than sorry, take the necessary precautions even if it sucks. I don't mean to alarm you any further, it's really a well meant advise.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: UKMJ on May 22, 2012, 03:23 pm
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thank you for posting kmf... I am beside myself with this info. facing life in prison, and released in less than a month. Really makes you think. And I can think of at least 1 person who could really find this information helpful.  In fact, I am going to message him right now to make sure he is aware that joot has been released.

well, the person I wanted to message hasn't been on since around the time that joot was released. Making me nervous.


Sounds like it is time to clean house and DBAN the computer wretched. Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: wretched on May 22, 2012, 04:25 pm
My personal paranoia level has reached an all time high with his release. I keep a clean house to begin with, but I am working on tin-foil hat levels today. and I'm all out of benzos, so please send some calming vibes this way. I can sure fucking use them right now. Not quite to end game strategy yet, but if it comes to that, I have enjoyed my time with you guys.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: Kappacino on May 22, 2012, 04:27 pm
Was this guys identity known before you released it here?
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: wretched on May 22, 2012, 04:34 pm
it was on the indictment
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 23, 2012, 12:30 am
Was this guys identity known before you released it here?

Did you fail reading comprehension? I would suggest that you go back to highschool but you would probably try to fuck all of the girls and end up in a sex offender prison ( jk jk ;) )
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: Trippyskies on May 23, 2012, 02:28 am
whatever.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 23, 2012, 02:36 am
WUTEVAH, I DO WHAT I WANTS
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: th3creeper on May 23, 2012, 03:21 am
WUTEVAH, I DO WHAT I WANTS
LOL!!

PS.  OJ never got bail. He was locked up all during his trial.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: Edward Jessup on May 23, 2012, 03:39 am
I'm sure that he just looked at the judge with puppy dog eyes and promised he wouldn't get any more fake IDs to disappear and he wouldn't sell any more drugs and they just released him back into the wild...like a badger
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: kmfkewm on May 23, 2012, 03:41 am
Seriously either he snitched, posted a multi million dollar bail or the judge is fuck-tarded and let someone facing life without parole who he knows can get fake docs and support himself anonymously online out of prison. 
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: Edward Jessup on May 23, 2012, 03:44 am
but what if he promised not to do it again?
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: marsvolta12 on May 23, 2012, 07:04 am
Can you link the indictment and the original thread?
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: towelie on May 23, 2012, 08:04 am
marsvolta12, you seem different somehow.
Title: Re: be careful if you worked with joot
Post by: The Godfather on May 23, 2012, 08:40 am
LOS ANGELES - Federal, state, and international law enforcement authorities have arrested eight people who all face federal drug trafficking and money laundering charges stemming from their creation and operation of a “secret” on-line narcotics market place – known as the “The Farmer's Market” – which sold a variety of controlled substances to approximately 3,000 customers in 34 countries and 50 states.

This morning, law enforcement authorities in Lelystad, Netherlands, arrested the lead defendant, Marc Willems, at his home. Yesterday, law enforcement officials in Bogota, Colombia, arrested the second defendant, Michael Evron, a United States citizen who lives in Argentina, as he was attempting to leave Colombia. The remaining defendants, Jonathan Colbeck, Brian Colbeck, Ryan Rawls, Jonathan Dugan, George Matzek, and Charles Bigras were arrested at their respective homes in Iowa, Michigan, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, and Florida.

The 66-page indictment, which was unsealed today, was the result of “Operation Adam Bomb,” a two-year investigation led by agents of the Drug Enforcement Administration's (DEA) Los Angeles Field Division, with significant assistance by the Netherlands Regional Police Force Flevoland, prosecutors from the International Legal Assistance Center North East Netherlands, United States Department of Justice’s Office of International Affairs, the DEA’s country office in Hague, and the United States Postal Service. The arrests of the defendants took place due to the cooperation and assistance of the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency, the Colombian Central Directorate of the Judicial Police and Intelligence, Migracion Colombia, the United States Postal Inspection Service, and Federal/State/Local authorities in New York, Iowa, Georgia, Florida, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Jersey.

“Illegal narcotics trafficking now reaches every corner of our world, including our home computers,” said United States Attorney André Birotte Jr., whose office is handling the prosecution of the case. “But the reach of the law is just as long, and the Department of Justice will work with its partners, both nationally and internationally, to bring narcotics traffickers to justice, wherever they may hide. Working together, we want to make the Internet a safe and secure marketplace by rooting out and prosecuting those persons who seek to illegally pervert and exploit that market.”

“The drug trafficking organization targeted in Operation Adam Bomb was distributing dangerous and addictive drugs to every corner of the world, and trying to hide their activities through the use of advanced anonymizing on-line technology,” said Briane M. Grey, DEA Acting Special Agent in Charge. “Today's action should send a clear message to organizations that are using technology to conduct criminal activity that the DEA and our law enforcement partners will track them down and bring them to justice.”

The 12-count indictment charges that each of the defendants was a member of a conspiracy to distribute a variety of controlled substances world-wide through the use of on-line marketplaces that allowed independent sources of supply to anonymously advertise illegal drugs for sale to the public. According to the indictment, the operators of the on-line marketplaces provided a controlled substances storefront, order forms, on-line forums, customer service, and payment methods for the different sources of supply. For customers, the operators screened all sources of supply and guaranteed delivery of the illegal drugs. The on-line marketplaces handled all communications between the sources of supply and customers. For these services, the operators charged a commission based upon the value of the order. Customers of the on-line marketplaces have been identified in every one of the states of the United States and the District of Columbia and in approximately 34 other countries. There are thousands of registered users of the on-line marketplaces. The on-line marketplaces have multiple sources of supply offering various controlled substances, including LSD, MDMA (ecstasy), fentanyl, mescaline, ketamine, DMT, and high-end marijuana. Between January 2007 and October 2009 alone, defendants Willems and Evron processed approximately 5,256 on-line orders for controlled substances valued at approximately $1,041,244 via the on-line controlled substances marketplaces.

As alleged in the indictment, the Farmers Market, previously known as Adamflowers, operated on the TOR network. According to the indictment, TOR is a circuit of encrypted connections through relays on the TOR network that can be downloaded on home computers. TOR allows websites and electronic mail communications to completely mask IP address information by spreading communications over a series of computers, or relays, located throughout the world. The on-line marketplaces have accepted Western Union, Pecunix, PayPal, I-Golder, and cash as payment for illegal drug sales.

According to investigators, this drug trafficking organization (“DTO”) attempted to operate online in secrecy, utilizing the TOR network, IP anonymizers, and covert currency transactions; but investigators were able to infiltrate the DTO and its technology during the course of the investigation.

Those arrested were:

Marc Willems, 42, a Dutch citizen living in Lelystad, Netherlands

Michael Evron, 42, a United States citizen living in Buenos Aires, Argentina

Jonathan Colbeck, 51, of Urbana, Iowa

Brian Colbeck, 47, of Coldwater, Michigan

Ryan Rawls, 31, of Alpharetta, Georgia

Jonathan Dugan, 27, of North Babylon, New York

George Matzek, 20, of Secaucus, New Jersey

Charles Bigras, 37, of Melbourne, Florida

An indictment contains allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty in court.

Each of the defendants is charged with conspiracy to distribute controlled substances, which carries a maximum sentence of imprisonment for life, and money laundering conspiracy, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years imprisonment. Defendants Willems, Evron, Jonathan Colbeck, Brian Colbeck, and Rawls are also charged with the distribution of LSD, which carries a maximum sentence of imprisonment for life. Finally, defendants Willems and Evron are charged with participating in a continuing criminal enterprise, which carries a maximum sentence of imprisonment for life and a 20-year mandatory minimum sentence.

In addition to those named in the indictment, authorities arrested 7 other people this morning (2 in Netherlands, 1 in Atlanta, 2 in New Hampshire, 1 in Pennsylvania, and 1 in New Jersey). During the course of the arrests made in this case, federal agents and local law enforcement officers also seized substances identified as hashish, LSD and MDMA, as well as an indoor psychotropic mushroom grow, and 3 indoor marijuana grows.

Link to indictment: http://www.scribd.com/doc/89690597/Willemsindictment-Filed-045